Tuck speaks with stand-up comic and actor River Butcher (he/they). Topics include:

• Bisexual men of dyke experience
• If men have hurt me, how do I come to terms with being a man?
• Being a comic who is trans, not a trans comic (and also not Che Diaz)
• Embracing perpetual transition and life in “the middle time”
• Plus: “Can I just say on this podcast… and hopefully it doesn’t become like a viral moment…” 

This Week in Gender: The Biden administration marked TDoV by trying to make TSA stop doing gender-based gropes, among other things.

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