Building more diverse, inclusive, and equitable workplaces is an ongoing challenge for many organizations. There is still a disconnect between the amount of noise generated around DE&I and the results achieved. So how can employers do better, and what lessons can be learned from other organizations? My guest this week is Bruce Jackson, Associate General Counsel & Managing Director, Strategic Partnerships at Microsoft. Bruce has just published a new book, "Never Far From Home", which documents his personal journey from a housing project in Manhattan to becoming a lawyer who represented Pete Rock and LL Cool J and ultimately worked for the President of Microsoft. In our conversation, he shares his insights into the developing DE&I strategies at Microsoft, and the role employers can play in improving social mobility. In the interview, we discuss: Bruce's journey and dealing with obstacles The overwhelming influence the environment you grew up in has on your prospects. What should employers do to improve diversity and inclusion? Practical incentives to help law firms be more diverse Improving evaluation and accountability The role employers can play in improving social mobility Cybersecurity programs in community colleges The critical importance of not losing another generation of great brave minds. Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.