All around the world, debates about hybrid and remote working rumble on as employers and employees experiment to find mutually agreeable and effective ways of working. There is a lot of noise in the debate around the future of work, and I really want to cut through this. With that in mind, I'm going to focus the next three episodes of the podcast on the future of work, exploring the real issues, looking at the practical solutions that are being put in place and taking an informed look at what the future might look like. My first guest in this mini-series is writer, speaker and consultant Julia Hobsbawm, author of the brilliant book "The Nowhere Office". In her book, Julia explores what is happening at the moment in the context of workplace changes over the last few decades and examines the current issues to help map the future.  In the interview, we discuss: Reimagining and reframing how we work The four phases of work since 1945 How the pandemic has accelerated trends that were already there The complexity of hybrid The real challenges with developing the next phase of work Undoing assumptions and old norms The challenge for talent acquisition Autonomy, flexibility and networks Thinking strategically to improve wellness and mental health. Listen to this podcast on Apple Podcasts.