Liz and Sarah aren’t just TV writers — they’re podcasters! This week they discuss how they make Happier In Hollywood, and what elements they think are necessary for a good podcast. One rule? No aimless banter! In Behind The Episode, they talk about the Fantasy Island episode, “Once Upon a Time in Havana.” Then, in The Mailroom, they answer a listener question related to their “fun job” motto. How can a job be fun and not fun at the same time? Finally, this week’s Hollywood Hack applies to everyone everywhere: Go as yourself.  Join our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/HappierinHollywood/ Get in touch on Twitter: @sarahmfain & @elizabethcraft Get in touch on Instagram: @Sfain & @LizCraft Visit our website: https://happierinhollywood.com Happier in Hollywood is part of ‘The Onward Project,’ a family of podcasts brought together by Gretchen Rubin—all about how to make your life better. Check out the other Onward Project podcasts—Happier with Gretchen Rubin, Side Hustle School, Do The Thing, and Everything Happens with Kate Bowler . If you liked this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, and tell your friends! LINKS:  Fantasy Island: https://www.fox.com/watch/c0b51c22e9bef93018c013b6668b5cbe/ He Said, Ella Dijo: "Opposites Attract with Odette and Dave Annable": https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/opposites-attract-with-odette-and-dave-annable/id1485461547?i=1000532111140 Kristen Meinzer's So You Want to Start a Podcast: https://www.amazon.com/You-Want-Start-Podcast-Community/dp/0062936670/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=Kristen+Meinzer&qid=1630087966&sr=8-2 To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices