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It’s the final week of Max Fun Drive and we’re celebrating with the divine Ella McLeod ("Comfort Creatures" pod!)! Ella was born and lives in London, and this is one of our favorite convos about “where we come from” and “who we are” and “how we reconcile conflicting realities” of all time!

 She’s the perfect guest to celebrate everything that’s uniquely special about all of the hosts and podcasts on Maximum Fun, and why we’re all so proud to be a part of this diverse and joyful community. Of which YOU are a huge part!

This show was edited with help from Daniel Zafran.