Today’s guest is Adrian Brink, CEO at Heliax, Co-Founder of the Anoma project, and a member of the Anoma Foundation Council. Heliax is a blockchain research, development, & product company bringing financial sovereignty and privacy to the world. They are the team behind Anoma. Anoma is a sovereign, proof-of-stake blockchain protocol that enables private, asset-agnostic cash and private bartering among any number of parties. Prior to Heliax, Adrian co-founded, scaled and eventually sold Cryptium Labs, an infrastructure operator that provided PoS validation from bunkers in the Swiss Alps, while simultaneously building Metastate, an R&D company that upgraded layer-1 protocols valued at over $4bn. Adrian was formerly the 3rd core protocol engineer to work on building the Cosmos stack at Tendermint and completed a graduate thesis on censorship-resistant e-voting systems as a means of helping the Catalan people to gain their independence. We discuss Anoma, Blockchain Evolution, Interoperability, Decentralization, Blockchain Design, and much more. We begin our conversation by discussing Adrian's background and crypto journey. Adrian explains the thesis behind decentralization and the benefit it provides society when attempting to solve large overarching problems. Our next conversation topic centered around interoperability and the multi-chain world. We discuss the importance of having the correct architecture to make interoperability possible. Adrian stresses that we are headed for a multichain world and goes on to explain why. We discuss the evolution of blockchains and Adrian explains how Anoma is helping make 3rd generation blockchains a reality. We also discuss the importance of interoperability and the problem with rollups. Adrian shares possible alternatives to rollups that are safer and more efficient, Our next conversation topic centered round privacy. We discuss why better privacy controls are absolutely needed for the broader adoption of crypto. Adrian explains how we can implement better privacy persevering technology into blockchains. Our next topic centered around zero knowledge proofs. Adrian explains what zero knowledge proofs are and how they are used. We discuss the benefits of zk proofs and which blockchains can implement this technology. We discuss the importance of building the best blockchain architecture possible to make the systems as resilient as possible. We finish our conversation by discussing the current bear market and building through the bear market. Please enjoy my conversation with Adrian Brink. -- AngelBlock is a DeFi protocol aimed at solving the issues of fundraising for digital assets and making the process crypto native. More info at https://untoldstories.link/AngelBlock -- This podcast is powered by Blockworks. For exclusive content and events that provide insights into the crypto and blockchain space, visit them at https://blockworks.co