Nate Hagens is the Director of The Institute for the Study of Energy & Our Future, an organization focused on educating and preparing society for the coming cultural transition. This is a dialogue on humanity's deep relation with energy in the context of fossil fuels, growth, climate, and meaning in life, with energy expert Nate Hagens. What does the future of our relation with growth and energy look like? Support this project on Patreon @ https://patreon.com/voicecraft Learn more about the Voicecraft project @ https://voicecraft.io Show notes @ https://voicecraft.io/nate-hagens-energy-blindness/ . More on Nate Hagens: Nate holds a Masters Degree in Finance with Honors from the University of Chicago and a Ph.D. in Natural Resources from the University of Vermont. He teaches an Honors course, Reality 101, at the University of Minnesota. For a relevant short clip from Nate's The Great Simplification channel, watch this: https://youtu.be/lgoD9q3A5RU 00:00 - Introduction 02:40 - The What & Why of Energy Blindness & Overview of the Great Simplication 20:05 - On polarisation regarding critical subjects and how Nate meets this in the context of his life and work 36:50 - On the Future of Energy, Limits To Growth, Realities of Climate Change & Alex Epstein 55:50 - On the relation between blind growth, the deep commons of value and exchange, and meaning in life 1:07:20 - On personal self-relating with systemic pattern, and looking to the future