On this weeks episode the podcast crew look back on a dismal performance away at Crystal Palace the led to embarrassing defeat. We discuss the need for a defensive midfield trio devoid of creativity and look at our formation in general. We discus Tanganga losing control and ask whether Kane is missing. We talk about the international break fiasco, where we stand now at centre back. The choice of Jello or pudding pops up too. Perhaps one of those can play better than Saturday's starting XI?