Foam Brewers Robert Grim enjoys a good lager but he admits that it's still all about the hops in Vermont.

Foam is in Burlington, VT where you can swing a hop bine and hit a handful of breweries making great IPAs.  When making your choice of where to visit, you should know that Foam is a James Beard semi-finalist for Outstanding Wine and Other Beverages Program.  How about that?

We kick things off discussing underrated beer styles.  Shout out VinePair for inspiring this discussion. We learn about Bob's brewing background and how he came to co-found Foam.  We celebrate the end of Dry January and find out if anyone at Foam gave it a shot and Bob tells us about the Woman of Foam's recent Amber Ale brew.

In addition to Foam, Bob's other business include a restaurant (Deep City), farm winery (Natural Hack), and mixed ferm brewery (House of Fermentology) and there's a cannabis beverage company (Taunik), too.

We've got to get up and visit Vermont soon.  We're going to drink all the beers.

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