It’s September 22nd. On this day in 1842, Abe Lincoln almost duels, using swords, with a man named James Shields, but manages to get out of it.

Jody and Niki are joined by historian Alexis Coe to talk about why the duel isn’t part of the Lincoln mythology, and how scores were settled in the 1840s.

Alexis Coe’s book is called “You Never Forget Your First.”

Find a transcript of this episode at: https://tinyurl.com/esoterichistory

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