Think back to your first batch of homebrew. Was it any good? Would you have felt comfortable not only advancing to all-grain, but also trying a lager for your second batch? Spencer did, and while we can't say we were that confident in our skills at brew #2, It sort of worked out for Spencer. We chat with him about all that, and then we talk with our friend Gordon Strong about the new style guidelines that the BJCP put out at the end of last year. It's always good to get Gordon on the show! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices