If you're a woman who's in a relationship with a woman, people call you a lesbian. If you're a woman who dates men and women, people call you bisexual.

But what if you don't feel like either?

Trainer, podcast host and former beach sprinting Junior World Champion, Katie Williams, came out with her girlfriend Georgia in 2021. But even though she's a woman in a relationship with another woman, she doesn't want your labels.

Katie sits down with Sean to share about exploring her sexuality in secret, the pressure to open up about her sexuality after she appeared on Big Brother Australia, how her family reacted when she came out in her late 20s, and how she responds when people ask her, "so how do you have sex?"

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