Discovering Ember, Adopting Orbit, and Unlocking Optimization with Chris Thoburn (runspired)
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Jan 27, 2022
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Runspired’s journey with Ember began just like Chuck’s, Robbie’s, and many who’ve come before them — with confusion, hesitancy, and gradual infatuation.  The year was 2008 and runspired was launching an app. Somewhere along the way, he realized that if he wanted to build the collaborative web-first application he envisioned, he needed to build in JavaScript.  Sifting through Angular and React, nothing stuck. When he finally stumbled upon Ember, the pitfalls and confusion were obvious and almost immediately he abandoned the framework. But runspired soon realized that features within Ember matched the ideas he began developing in his own framework years prior. Suddenly, everything clicked and today runspired is an Ember aficionado with big ideas on the future of framework and the secrets to cutting edge optimization. In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and runspired discuss flaws in the developer community, why Orbit is useful, shifting the approach to API frameworks, and why JSON:API and GraphQL are a match made in developer heaven.  Key Takeaways [01:37] - A whiskey review. [11:26] - How runspired’s journey in the Ember community evolved.  [20:22] - What runspired thinks about RedwoodJS and API frameworks.  [24:03] - Why Orbit is flawed but incredibly useful.  [29:45] - What’s missing from the developer community.  [36:01] - Why JSON:API and GraphQL are a perfect marriage.  [41:59] - What Ember Data cares about. [48:01] - A conversation about whatnot including Chris’ dive into professional running.  [55:55] - A cause runspired cares about in the Ember community.  Quotes [18:30] - “I’ve never found a reason to want to re-evaluate Ember as my main framework. Every time I’ve had a complaint, it’s evolved to satisfy that complaint with time.” ~ runspired [23:00] - “So many of the problems that I see applications encounter late in their life cycles are problems where the API framework just wasn’t set up well in the first place. And if they had had a better framework for building APIs and understanding how applications are maybe going to mature, and how that API is going to need to evolve as the application matures, they probably would have been set up for better success.” ~ runspired [24:42] - “Orbit, in my opinion, is the gold standard of data libraries for the front-end right now. Because it solves every problem that you don’t know you have yet. But that’s also its big flaw because it has found the end architecture that you’ve got to evolve to if you end up with those problems.” ~ runspired Links EmberFest Balcones Whiskey Ember Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Chuck’s Origin Story: Career Pivots and Learning to Love Ember Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Robbie’s Origin Story: Learning to Code, Learning to Hire, and Taking the Entrepreneurial Leap Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Ember vs. React, Jamstack, and Holes in the Hiring Process with Chris Manson Whiskey Web and Whatnot: RedwoodJS, Developer Experience, and Developing for Scale with Tom Preston-Werner National Geographic JavaScript jQuery  Backbone.js Angular  Hacker News React Svelte RedwoodJS Rails Spring Rust Orbit  GraphQL Discord  JSON:API Redux LinkedIn runspired on Instagram runspired on LinkedIn  Connect with our hosts Robbie Wagner Chuck Carpenter Ship Shape Subscribe and stay in touch Apple Podcasts Spotify Google Podcasts Whiskey Web and Whatnot Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.
Runspired’s journey with Ember began just like Chuck’s, Robbie’s, and many who’ve come before them — with confusion, hesitancy, and gradual infatuation.  The year was 2008 and runspired was launching an app. Somewhere along the way, he realized that if he wanted to build the collaborative web-first application he envisioned, he needed to build in JavaScript.  Sifting through Angular and React, nothing stuck. When he finally stumbled upon Ember, the pitfalls and confusion were obvious and almost immediately he abandoned the framework. But runspired soon realized that features within Ember matched the ideas he began developing in his own framework years prior. Suddenly, everything clicked and today runspired is an Ember aficionado with big ideas on the future of framework and the secrets to cutting edge optimization. In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and runspired discuss flaws in the developer community, why Orbit is useful, shifting the approach to API frameworks, and why JSON:API and GraphQL are a match made in developer heaven.  Key Takeaways [01:37] - A whiskey review. [11:26] - How runspired’s journey in the Ember community evolved.  [20:22] - What runspired thinks about RedwoodJS and API frameworks.  [24:03] - Why Orbit is flawed but incredibly useful.  [29:45] - What’s missing from the developer community.  [36:01] - Why JSON:API and GraphQL are a perfect marriage.  [41:59] - What Ember Data cares about. [48:01] - A conversation about whatnot including Chris’ dive into professional running.  [55:55] - A cause runspired cares about in the Ember community.  Quotes [18:30] - “I’ve never found a reason to want to re-evaluate Ember as my main framework. Every time I’ve had a complaint, it’s evolved to satisfy that complaint with time.” ~ runspired [23:00] - “So many of the problems that I see applications encounter late in their life cycles are problems where the API framework just wasn’t set up well in the first place. And if they had had a better framework for building APIs and understanding how applications are maybe going to mature, and how that API is going to need to evolve as the application matures, they probably would have been set up for better success.” ~ runspired [24:42] - “Orbit, in my opinion, is the gold standard of data libraries for the front-end right now. Because it solves every problem that you don’t know you have yet. But that’s also its big flaw because it has found the end architecture that you’ve got to evolve to if you end up with those problems.” ~ runspired Links EmberFest Balcones Whiskey Ember Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Chuck’s Origin Story: Career Pivots and Learning to Love Ember Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Robbie’s Origin Story: Learning to Code, Learning to Hire, and Taking the Entrepreneurial Leap Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Ember vs. React, Jamstack, and Holes in the Hiring Process with Chris Manson Whiskey Web and Whatnot: RedwoodJS, Developer Experience, and Developing for Scale with Tom Preston-Werner National Geographic JavaScript jQuery  Backbone.js Angular  Hacker News React Svelte RedwoodJS Rails Spring Rust Orbit  GraphQL Discord  JSON:API Redux LinkedIn runspired on Instagram runspired on LinkedIn  Connect with our hosts Robbie Wagner Chuck Carpenter Ship Shape Subscribe and stay in touch Apple Podcasts Spotify Google Podcasts Whiskey Web and Whatnot Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

Runspired’s journey with Ember began just like Chuck’s, Robbie’s, and many who’ve come before them — with confusion, hesitancy, and gradual infatuation. 

The year was 2008 and runspired was launching an app. Somewhere along the way, he realized that if he wanted to build the collaborative web-first application he envisioned, he needed to build in JavaScript. 

Sifting through Angular and React, nothing stuck. When he finally stumbled upon Ember, the pitfalls and confusion were obvious and almost immediately he abandoned the framework. But runspired soon realized that features within Ember matched the ideas he began developing in his own framework years prior. Suddenly, everything clicked and today runspired is an Ember aficionado with big ideas on the future of framework and the secrets to cutting edge optimization.

In this episode, Robbie, Chuck, and runspired discuss flaws in the developer community, why Orbit is useful, shifting the approach to API frameworks, and why JSON:API and GraphQL are a match made in developer heaven. 

Key Takeaways

  • [01:37] - A whiskey review.
  • [11:26] - How runspired’s journey in the Ember community evolved. 
  • [20:22] - What runspired thinks about RedwoodJS and API frameworks. 
  • [24:03] - Why Orbit is flawed but incredibly useful. 
  • [29:45] - What’s missing from the developer community. 
  • [36:01] - Why JSON:API and GraphQL are a perfect marriage. 
  • [41:59] - What Ember Data cares about.
  • [48:01] - A conversation about whatnot including Chris’ dive into professional running. 
  • [55:55] - A cause runspired cares about in the Ember community. 

Quotes

[18:30] - “I’ve never found a reason to want to re-evaluate Ember as my main framework. Every time I’ve had a complaint, it’s evolved to satisfy that complaint with time.” ~ runspired

[23:00] - “So many of the problems that I see applications encounter late in their life cycles are problems where the API framework just wasn’t set up well in the first place. And if they had had a better framework for building APIs and understanding how applications are maybe going to mature, and how that API is going to need to evolve as the application matures, they probably would have been set up for better success.” ~ runspired

[24:42] - “Orbit, in my opinion, is the gold standard of data libraries for the front-end right now. Because it solves every problem that you don’t know you have yet. But that’s also its big flaw because it has found the end architecture that you’ve got to evolve to if you end up with those problems.” ~ runspired

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Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants

This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

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