In this bonus episode of Up Against the Mob, Elie Honig and Safeena Mecklai take listeners behind the scenes of the first episode. They discuss the challenge of flipping a mafia member to become a cooperating witness and how Elie would speak to his young children about his job prosecuting organized crime.   To hear future bonus episodes of Up Against the Mob become a member of CAFE Insider at cafe.com/Insider and enter code MOB for 50% off the annual membership price. Up Against the Mob is produced by CAFE Studios and the Vox Media Podcast Network. New episodes drop every Wednesday. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio Producers: Matthew Billy; Composer: Nat Weiner; Editorial Producers: Noa Azulai, David Kurlander, Sam Ozer-Staton, Jake Kaplan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices