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In today’s interview, the first in a two-part series, my friend and colleague Dan Palmer of Making Permaculture Stronger, gives me a sense of vicarious joy to share with you, as he’s done something that’s on my list of dream podcast experiences. Dan sits down face-to-face with David Holmgren at Melliodora and together they have a conversation about the early history of permaculture. From David’s lips to our ears we hear the first-hand account of his days at university, meeting Bill Mollison and their initial work together, to the impact of David’s second permaculture mentor Haikai Tane.

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