In this sample of the Cyber Space podcast, Jeanette Manfra, the former assistant director for cybersecurity at the Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), speaks with host John Carlin about the differences between cybersecurity in the government and private sector. In the full episode, Manfra also discusses Manfra’s time serving in Iraq, how she got into cybersecurity, and her new role as Director of Government Security and Compliance at Google Cloud.   Cyber Space is the newest podcast for members of CAFE Insider. Every other Friday, Carlin, who led the Justice Department’s National Security Division, explores issues at the intersection of technology, policy, and law with leaders who’ve made an impact in the world of cybersecurity.  To listen to the full episode and get access to all exclusive CAFE Insider content, try the membership free for 2 weeks: cafe.com/insider Sign up to receive a free weekly newsletter, featuring analysis by Elie Honig, and more: cafe.com/brief Cyber Space is produced by CAFE Studios.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Audio Producer: Nat Weiner; Editorial Producers: Noa Azulai, David Kurlander, Sam Ozer-Staton. Cyber Space is produced in association with Brooklyn Law School’s BLIP clinic. Special thanks to Amanda Kadish,Isabel Agosto, Jordan Khorshad, and Motty Rivki.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices