Today, we’ll touch on the world of COVID politics… where perception is reality and has little to do with policy. GUEST: Rick Pluta, Capitol Bureau Chief, Michigan Public Radio Network Looking for more conversations from Stateside? Right this way. If you like what you hear on the pod, consider supporting our work. Stateside’s theme music is by 14KT. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.