Vox senior correspondent Zack Beauchamp and Vox senior foreign writer Jonathan Guyer discuss the killing of al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri, one of the organizers behind the September 11, 2001, attacks on the US. His death marks a turning point in the “war on terror” and US foreign policy, but what kind of turning point? Can we say the war on terror is over, or is it just entering a new stage? References: What Ayman Zawahiri’s death tells us about terrorism and US foreign policy Ayman al-Zawahiri’s death by drone was President Biden’s opportunity to end the war on terrorism No one has been held accountable for the catastrophic Afghanistan withdrawal  Where in the world are Russians going to avoid sanctions?  Hosts: Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox Jonathan Guyer (@mideastXmidwest), senior foreign policy writer, Vox  Credits: Sofi LaLonde, producer and engineer Libby Nelson, editorial adviser Amber Hall, deputy editorial director of talk podcasts Want to support The Weeds? Please consider making a donation to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices