In this episode Scott Becker discusses Howard Schultz, the pro labor potential candidate for President a few years back, and how he appears to be not so pro labor when it comes to union efforts at Starbucks. The lesson here is big executives ought be cautious about constantly extolling their humanistic virtues if it’s just talk and not real. Another common behavior that is fascinating to watch is the most aggressive capitalists turning into the most aggressive ESG advocates.