Race discrimination commissioner Tim Soutphommasane joins Katharine Murphy and Gabrielle Chan to discuss the return of One Nation and the most effective way to counter her ideas. Soutphommasane recalls that Hanson’s maiden speech 20 years ago “made us feel unwelcome, it made us second-guess our position in society”. He argues that economic growth in itself is not enough to sway disaffected voters who have been left behind by globalisation and who turn to One Nation for solutions.