Nifemi Marcus-Bello and Thabisa Mjo in Conversation with Mpho Matispa. In this podcast episode hosted by faculty Mpho Matsipa, makers Nifemi Marcus-Bello and Thabisa Mjo bring us on their journey to integrate cultural heritage and unique craftsmanship in local communities to create economic viability in Africa. Nifemi Marcus-Bello is the founder of nmbello Studio, an Industrial Design practice located in Lagos, Nigeria, with a focus on product, furniture, and experience design for both local and international clients. Thabisa Mjo is the founder of the Johannesburg-based Mash.T Design Studio, a studio focused on telling uniquely South African stories using the medium of design. They were both part of the GSAPP event Building Cultures: Making in Nairobi, Lagos, Accra/Tema, and Johannesburg held at the school on September 6, 2019.