Human-caused climate change is real and growing in impact. Yet many Americans see climate change as a belief that they can opt out of. Two belief structures are to blame: American Protestantism and postmodernism. Guests: Tanya Luhrmann, professor of anthropology and psychology at Stanford University and author of When God Talks Back. Gary Aylesworth, professor emeritus of philosophy at Eastern Illinois University. Lee McIntyre, Research Fellow at the Center for Philosophy and History of Science at Boston University and author of Post-Truth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices