The Cincinnati Reds and Pittsburgh Pirates split a doubleheader in which most baseball fans cringed to watch. There were plenty of strange things, like David Bell intentionally walking Diego Castillo with two outs, and there were plenty of on-brand things like multiple defensive errors by the Pirates costing them the second game. Jeff and Steve welcome Ethan Smith from Locked On Pirates on to laugh and wonder at the present versions of the pirates and Reds and what the future may hold. Guys like Jonathan India and Roansy Contreras had good days. How will Ben Cherington and Nick Krall shape these two teams moving forward?

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