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Certainly, if you have ever you read instructions or product documentation that left you annoyed and confused, then you can appreciate the work he does with Acrolinx.
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00:00:00 BAILey
Hello and welcome to data driven.
00:00:02 BAILey
In this episode Frank and Andy speak with Christopher Willis about how artificial intelligence can help bake brands create congruent content across cultures, languages and writers.
00:00:13 BAILey
One quick word of correction.
00:00:15 BAILey
Frank made the assumption that CPO was chief product Officer.
00:00:19 BAILey
Chris is actually Chief pipeline officer.
00:00:21 BAILey
In addition to being chief marketing Officer, Acrolinx currently does not have a chief product officer.
00:00:28 BAILey
Frank should know by now what happens when you assume anything.
00:00:32 BAILey
I'll have a chat with him later.
00:00:34 BAILey
For now, enjoy the show.
00:00:44 Frank
Hello and welcome to data driven, the podcast where we explore the emerging fields of data science, machine learning and artificial intelligence.
00:00:52 Frank
If you'd like to think of data as the new oil, then you can think of us like Car Talk because we focus on where the rubber meets the virtual road and with me on this epic road trip down the information.
00:01:04 Frank
Superhighway as always is Andy Leonard.
00:01:07 Frank
How's it going Andy?
00:01:08 Andy
Good Frank, how are you doing?
00:01:10 Frank
I'm doing great, I'm doing great.
00:01:11 Frank
It's a beautiful Tuesday morning here in the DC area.
00:01:14 Frank
We're recording this on September 28th and I can't believe it's already October.
00:01:22 Andy
Almost gosh, yeah, yeah.
00:01:23 Frank
Almost October.
00:01:25 Andy
It's it's been beautiful fall weather.
00:01:28 Andy
Past few days here in sunny Farmville, VA.
00:01:33 Andy
And I'm really enjoying that.
00:01:35 Andy
Got a lot of outdoors work done in the past few days and that's always a good thing.
00:01:40 Frank
Yeah, we just built the trampoline for the kids and that was a was a lot of fun.
00:01:46 Frank
'cause the.
00:01:46 Frank
Instructions were horrible.
00:01:50 Andy
Did you get one with that big net around it?
00:01:53 Andy
Keep from bouncing off and 'cause otherwise it should come with a coupon for a free cast.
00:01:58 Frank
Freecast and free healthcare that'd be funny.
00:02:00 Andy
Yes, yes, that's right, yeah.
00:02:03 Frank
Yeah, so without further ado I'd like to introduce we have this.
00:02:07 Frank
Awesome guest today.
00:02:08 Frank
We've been really lucking out on terms of folks coming to us...
In this episode, Frank and Andy speak to Christopher P. Willis about Using AI to Create a Better User Experience with Better Content.
Certainly, if you have ever you read instructions or product documentation that left you annoyed and confused, then you can appreciate the work he does with Acrolinx.
Audible is a sponsor! Click this link and score a free audio book on us! If you subscribe, you help out the podcast. Everyone wins!
00:00:00 BAILey
Hello and welcome to data driven.
00:00:02 BAILey
In this episode Frank and Andy speak with Christopher Willis about how artificial intelligence can help bake brands create congruent content across cultures, languages and writers.
00:00:13 BAILey
One quick word of correction.
00:00:15 BAILey
Frank made the assumption that CPO was chief product Officer.
00:00:19 BAILey
Chris is actually Chief pipeline officer.
00:00:21 BAILey
In addition to being chief marketing Officer, Acrolinx currently does not have a chief product officer.
00:00:28 BAILey
Frank should know by now what happens when you assume anything.
00:00:32 BAILey
I'll have a chat with him later.
00:00:34 BAILey
For now, enjoy the show.
00:00:44 Frank
Hello and welcome to data driven, the podcast where we explore the emerging fields of data science, machine learning and artificial intelligence.
00:00:52 Frank
If you'd like to think of data as the new oil, then you can think of us like Car Talk because we focus on where the rubber meets the virtual road and with me on this epic road trip down the information.
00:01:04 Frank
Superhighway as always is Andy Leonard.
00:01:07 Frank
How's it going Andy?
00:01:08 Andy
Good Frank, how are you doing?
00:01:10 Frank
I'm doing great, I'm doing great.
00:01:11 Frank
It's a beautiful Tuesday morning here in the DC area.
00:01:14 Frank
We're recording this on September 28th and I can't believe it's already October.
00:01:22 Andy
Almost gosh, yeah, yeah.
00:01:23 Frank
Almost October.
00:01:25 Andy
It's it's been beautiful fall weather.
00:01:28 Andy
Past few days here in sunny Farmville, VA.
00:01:33 Andy
And I'm really enjoying that.
00:01:35 Andy
Got a lot of outdoors work done in the past few days and that's always a good thing.
00:01:40 Frank
Yeah, we just built the trampoline for the kids and that was a was a lot of fun.
00:01:46 Frank
'cause the.
00:01:46 Frank
Instructions were horrible.
00:01:50 Andy
Did you get one with that big net around it?
00:01:53 Andy
Keep from bouncing off and 'cause otherwise it should come with a coupon for a free cast.
00:01:58 Frank
Freecast and free healthcare that'd be funny.
00:02:00 Andy
Yes, yes, that's right, yeah.
00:02:03 Frank
Yeah, so without further ado I'd like to introduce we have this.
00:02:07 Frank
Awesome guest today.
00:02:08 Frank
We've been really lucking out on terms of folks coming to us and and suggesting guests for us, which is quite refreshing, actually.
00:02:17 Frank
So so today we have with us Christopher Willis, Acrolinx Chief Marketing Officer and Chief Product Officer.
00:02:25 Frank
Christopher is an expert in technology, marketing and brand alignment alignment with over 20 years of experience in with some of the world biggest tech names including Perfecto.
00:02:35 Frank
Kmag and Cambridge technology group.
00:02:39 Frank
And through his work at Acrolinx, he's become a renowned thought leader on the topics of content governance and brand alignment.
00:02:46 Frank
He's also an expert on AI and how AI can help.
00:02:50 Frank
Big brands can great create congruent content across cultures, language and writers.
00:02:56 Frank
Acrolinx creates tools for developing content that feels human, relatable, and compassionate.
00:03:01 Frank
It's already used by some of the biggest brands in the technology world today, so welcome to the show, Chris.
00:03:09 Christopher
Thank you, I'm excited about your trampoline.
00:03:12 Frank
Well, thank you.
00:03:12 Frank
Thank you.
00:03:13 Frank
You should come on down I.
00:03:14 Frank
I think you're on the East Coast somewhere in Boston.
00:03:17 Christopher
I am outside of Boston, yes?
00:03:18 Frank
Awesome cool cool you never know 'cause sometimes people will put where they used to live on LinkedIn and not update that so.
00:03:26 Christopher
Nope, haven't gone anywhere in what a year?
00:03:27 Christopher
And a.
00:03:27 Christopher
Half if not.
00:03:28 Frank
Right, right?
00:03:29 Christopher
A lot, not a lot of travel, yeah?
00:03:30 Frank
Year and a half in the two week lockdown.
00:03:35 Frank
Well, welcome to the show so so.
00:03:38 Frank
Tell me about what so, so you're a CMO and a CPO.
00:03:43 Frank
That's that's, uh.
00:03:45 Frank
That's an interesting mix I I can see how the two are related, but can you explain kind of like what it is you do for acrolinx and maybe a little bit about.
00:03:54 Christopher
So I do a bunch of things.
00:03:55 Christopher
I I I joined the company to run marketing and marketing has.
00:04:00 Christopher
A lot of.
00:04:00 Christopher
Reach in this organization because of what we do and who we sell to.
00:04:05 Christopher
So I reach into pipeline.
00:04:07 Christopher
I reach into the product process on product marketing in there and come from a background where this approach really resonates and makes a lot of sense and the way that we collect and build and use data is very aligned to the way that I've.
00:04:24 Christopher
I've built content in the past.
00:04:28 Frank
Interesting, interesting.
00:04:29 Frank
So the the product at acrolinx it it.
00:04:33 Frank
It uses AI to create content.
00:04:36 Frank
So, so like what does that do is?
00:04:38 Christopher
Different so we are.
00:04:38 Frank
It kind of NLP.
00:04:40 Christopher
We're improving content, so we're we're about being improving the quality and effectiveness of enterprise.
00:04:47 Christopher
Content so the easiest way to think about what we do is everybody that writes everybody that owns a content organization, whether that's in a development group with technical documentation or product manuals, or marketing content enablement content, internal education.
00:05:04 Christopher
All these folks have a whiteboard in their office and.
00:05:07 Christopher
On that whiteboard are all the components of language, the way that they want to create their content.
00:05:12 Christopher
It's the tone of voice.
00:05:13 Christopher
It's the clarity level education level of their of their readers.
00:05:17 Christopher
It's the amount of compassion, emotion, inclusiveness that they want in their contents.
00:05:22 Christopher
The words that they want to use and that they don't want.
00:05:24 Christopher
Use, it's all up there on the whiteboard.
00:05:26 Christopher
They feel good about it.
00:05:28 Christopher
They've defined essentially the voice of their group or their organization.
00:05:32 Christopher
The problem with that whiteboard is that it's in their office and nobody can see it, and even if they could, we don't have a writers pool in the world anymore.
00:05:40 Christopher
We're all writers when you go to work, a byproduct of your work is.
00:05:45 Christopher
Content, and so.
00:05:46 Christopher
As a marketer I get my best content from folks that don't touch marketing.
00:05:51 Christopher
They're just smart people that can create so they don't.
00:05:55 Christopher
They don't care about what's on my whiteboard at all, and.
00:06:00 Christopher
When we were, I mean, the last seven or eight years you talked about.
00:06:03 Christopher
The potential for the digital shift, and I think everybody been using that as a marketing buzzword like digital shift is coming.
00:06:10 Christopher
You got to get ready and I don't know if anybody ever really thought it was coming, but it was a great way to so some fear into our prospects that if you don't modernize, the world is going to change.
00:06:20 Christopher
Holy crap March hit last year and the digital shift arrives and now you're only touchpoint with your consumer is through digital content for some period of time and it became really apparent to folks that how you commute.
00:06:36 Christopher
Gay matters and then all the things that happened last year from from a social standpoint.
00:06:43 Christopher
Language took on a very lead role.
00:06:46 Christopher
And how do you as an enterprise ensure that you're communicating in the voice of your audience?
00:06:53 Christopher
And that's where Acrolinx comes in.
00:06:54 Christopher
We look at terminology.
00:06:56 Christopher
We look at.
00:06:56 Christopher
It's style guidelines voice guidelines to be able to create this essentially central lexecon of how to communicate his business and then.
00:07:07 Christopher
Either your writers in real time use acrolinx in their sidebar and what in whatever authoring tool they're using, whether they're using something like madcap flare or Adobe products or Google Docs or Microsoft or anything in a browser.
00:07:21 Christopher
Uhm, you're able to use acrolinx in real time to check there your content.
00:07:25 Christopher
Acrolinx checks for all the components that.
00:07:28 Christopher
It's learned from your organization to create great content and provide you with the score.
00:07:32 Christopher
You can improve over time or through automation.
00:07:35 Christopher
So think in terms of continuous process, continuous delivery of content.
00:07:42 Christopher
I'm checking content in it's being scored delivered back to me.
00:07:45 Christopher
I'm making changes and it's rolling out at the speed of my.
00:07:48 Christopher
Development process.
00:07:50 Christopher
So at the base of what we're doing, when you think about where we're at, it's it's really about taking content in stream of characters, extracting that content, buying the context of that, identifying.
00:08:03 Christopher
Uh, your tokens either at the word level at the sentence.
00:08:06 Christopher
Level and then adding in the linguistic data underneath that around morphology and compound analysis to understand what's.
00:08:14 Christopher
In the content that we're we're looking at identifying terminology and and variant detection and then laying patterns on top of that, our proprietary secret sauce to be able to provide that.
00:08:26 Christopher
That feedback of whether or not your content is correct on character on tone on terminology, and then that feeds back.
00:08:34 Christopher
To users in the form of guidance.
00:08:37 Frank
Interesting, so it guides the people who are creating the content doesn't necessarily generate the content for them.
00:08:45 Christopher
We don't override and we don't right because customers.
00:08:47 Frank
Right?
00:08:49 Christopher
If you think in terms of who our customers are.
00:08:51 Christopher
Our our customers tend to be the largest technology companies in the world, so think top 20 global technology companies almost every single one of them uses acrolinx and.
00:09:02 Christopher
A piece of guidance might be useful, it might be on purpose, so as an example, when I write through my system and I write the word software.
00:09:12 Christopher
It says Are you sure you didn't mean platform?
00:09:14 Christopher
And why does it say that?
00:09:15 Christopher
Because in my world, if we're talking about our product, I don't want my employees to call it software, it's it's platform.
00:09:21 Christopher
It's an extensible platform with integration pieces and an API.
00:09:24 Christopher
I don't want to sell it as software.
00:09:26 Christopher
But I might have meant to say software.
00:09:29 Christopher
So I don't want to.
00:09:30 Christopher
I don't want to enforce that rule.
00:09:32 Christopher
I want to provide guidance and if you agree with that guidance, you implement that guidance.
00:09:37 Christopher
We have the technology to override that, but in almost every case that doesn't make sense to the customer.
00:09:45 Andy
So is the input for the content is it?
00:09:46 Frank
What is this?
00:09:46 Frank
What this?
00:09:50 Andy
Is it spoken or written or all of the above?
00:09:55 Christopher
All of the above, so we can take in.
00:09:57 Christopher
I mean, there's a number of ways to teach the platform to be your editor.
00:10:04 Christopher
One is to pull mass quantities of content.
00:10:07 Christopher
Give me all your great content.
00:10:09 Christopher
What does it look like?
00:10:10 Christopher
Identify what you think is good and we're going to read through that, and the system will read through all that content and start generating guidelines.
00:10:15 Christopher
Based on what you believe is great content today.
00:10:18 Christopher
Uhm, there's also the ability to just go in and into our interface and set guidelines so you can set a tone of voice you can identify how lively you want your content.
00:10:29 Christopher
Today there are challenges to all of those methods because over time you're going to learn more, and that's part of what I've really been aiming to.
00:10:39 Christopher
Evolve with the product is.
00:10:42 Christopher
Gartner, the analyst firm, has said that 50% of of marketers, people that set the company voice are. I don't think this is the word they use, but I.
00:10:52 Christopher
Will use guessing.
00:10:54 Christopher
I have a good idea of what my audience wants to hear, so I define my tone of voice.
00:10:58 Christopher
I define the words that I'm going to use I I think I know what people want to hear.
00:11:02 Christopher
And if I use acronyms.
00:11:05 Christopher
Go ahead and I take all that information that I've gathered, and I teach acrolinx to to help create content like that and the output of acrolinx is an Acura link score so you're aiming for 100.
00:11:17 Christopher
Most customers are aiming for 80.
00:11:18 Christopher
You want to be 80 or better.
00:11:20 Christopher
80 means good, 90 means done, numeric value of of good and done, so no subjectivity.
00:11:26 Christopher
It's just it is what it is.
00:11:28 Christopher
This is either on my guidance or it's not on my guidance and.
00:11:32 Christopher
If I get 100 acrolinx score on a piece of content, well by God, that's going to perform fantastically. It's exactly what I think.
00:11:41 Christopher
My audience wants to hear and how I think they want to hear it.
00:11:43 Christopher
The important word in.
00:11:45 Christopher
There though, is I think.
00:11:47 Christopher
I think that.
00:11:49 Christopher
Where I want to aim to get to is the ability to create a feedback loop from my audience.
00:11:54 Christopher
So think in terms of support...
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