Chris Smith joins me on the podcast to talk about the Out of Moab Conference and in-between the love fest for the upcoming Out of Moab Conference, we share Chris' challenges with leading conferences, discuss any imposter syndrome he had at the beginning of his photography career, the thing that scared him from hiking a mile, the insanity of scheduling 100 people's activities for each conference and the time he got made fun of by Ansel Adams' assistant! Join me & Ian Norman, Eric Paré, Royce Bair, David Kingham to name a few of my favorites coming to the Out of Moab conference in September! https://www.outofchicago.com/moab/ USE DISCOUNT CODE "KING" TO GET $250 OFF!