This episode is brought to you by CHANEL. CHANEL Connects – the acclaimed arts and culture podcast – is back for its fourth season, with nine episodes featuring the artists, curators and thinkers shaping culture today. If you enjoy the episode, you can hear much more from the new season, just search CHANEL Connects now on your preferred streaming platforms or visit chanel.com.   The artist William Kentridge and curator Carolyn Christov-Bakargiev are old friends who, together, have created some of the most resonant work of their time. These two giants of the art world discuss the Venice installation of William’s film “Self-Portrait as a Coffee Pot,” Carolyn‘s previous work as director of the Castello di Rivoli museum in Italy, and the origins of their long and rich creative relationship. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices