Cancel culture is real. It happens on Twitter and it makes money off of us. This week's introduction is a passionate essay Gaby has been stewing on for a long time. Then, Gaby interviews reporter Emily Vanderwerff about the tragic story of trans woman Isabel Fall who was bullied into a mental hospital because of a bad faith reading of a sci-fi story she wrote. They also discuss the difference between "cancellation" from within your community vs outside your community and the difference between prominent people being attacked or criticized versus private citizens experiencing the same. How much money is social media making off of us coming for each other? And lastly, Tiktok's Serena Shahidi aka GlamDemon2004 chats making money from her cancellation and how Gen Z is turning bullying into cash. (That's right. Your hate engagement makes that person money.) This episode includes transphobia, suicide, and sexual assault. Please take care while listening. IMPORTANT ADD: Read this thoughtful article by a Black comedian Ashley Ray on the Jessica Kirson controversy, which actually began over a racist bit she was rightfully called out over https://ashleyray.substack.com/p/im-not-going-to-let-you-cancel-jessica For a transcript of the show: https://bit.ly/BWMS8E10Transcript Follow Gaby Dunn on Instagram: @GabyRoad Follow Bad With Money on Instagram: @BWMpod Join the Bad With Money Community on Facebook: facebook.com/groups/398914378105641/ Shop gabydunn.com/shop for merch! Follow Serena Shahidi everywhere @GlamDemon2004 Be sure to read Emily's piece "How Twitter Can Ruin A Life" on Vox.com Follow Emily on Twitter @EmilyVDW Bad with Money is produced and edited by Lindsey Floyd. It is sound engineered and mixed by Joey Salvia. The Executive Producer is Lindsey Floyd. The theme song was performed by Sam Barbara and written by Myq Kaplan, Zach Sherwin, and Jack Dolgen. Additional music by Joey Salvia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy