Custodia, established as a special purpose depository institution in Wyoming, aimed to offer secure banking services for the crypto sector. Despite meeting state requirements and taking extra steps to demonstrate its commitment to safety, Custodia’s application for a Fed master account was met with delays and ultimately denied in an unprecedented 86-page report. In this episode, Caitlin and Michelle explain why they believe the Fed’s rejection was politically motivated, how this relates to Operation Choke Point 2.0, the appallingly small number of American banks owned by women, where they are in their lawsuit against the Fed, and what this case means for the future of crypto banking in the U.S. Show highlights: 00:00 Intro 01:52 What Custodia Bank is and how it got started in Wyoming 06:04 How Custodia got into a fight with the Fed to get its master account 09:58 How the dual banking system works in the U.S. and the differences between Custodia and traditional banks 18:15 Why Custodia filed a lawsuit against its own regulator 24:33 Why the Fed denied Custodia its applications and Caitlin’s response to the criticisms 29:57 The political coordination meant to “intimidate” Custodia, according to Caitlin 42:43 The amicus briefs that were filed in favor of Custodia 48:48 Caitlin’s reaction to the Fed’s enforcement action against Customers Bank  53:35 Why Caitlin says that it’s “abusive and corporatist” that the SEC is granting exceptions to big banks 56:03 Why so few banks are owned by women and whether this played a role in Custodia’s denial 59:25 The next steps in Custodia’s case and whether a stablecoin is viable for them 1:05:21 Whether the elections are going to impact the case Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Polkadot Token 2049 Mantle  Guests: Caitlin Long, Founder & CEO of Custodia Bank Previous appearances on Unchained: Why Caitlin Long and Meltem Demirors Are Worried About Crypto’s Future in the US Caitlin Long: Why Avanti Will Be a New Kind of Crypto Bank Michelle Kallen, Partner at Jenner & Block Links Timeline PerkinsCoie: Federal Reserve Issues Final Guidelines for Master Account Access CoinDesk: Crypto Bank Custodia Sues Federal Reserve Davis Polk: Crypto bank sues Federal Reserve over delay in master account application Fed’s 86-page report of its denial of Custodia’s membership  Custodia’s response to the Fed report Custodia’s amended filing Judge Scott Skavdahl’s order to dismiss Davis Polk: District courts refuse to order Federal Reserve to grant master accounts to Custodia Appeal Custodia’s appeal notice Custodia’s appeal filing Amicus briefs for the appeal Bitcoin Magazine: The Federal Reserve, Custodia Bank, And The Battle For Sovereignty Paul Clement on behalf of the Digital Chamber and Global Blockchain Business Council (GBBC) Don Verrilli for Blockchain Association State of Wyoming Americans for Prosperity Foundation Members of the United States Senate Banking Committee and House Financial Services Committee Former Sen. Patrick Toomey Customers Bank: CoinGeek: ‘Crypto’-friendly Customers Bank hit with Fed Reserve enforcement action Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Custodia, established as a special purpose depository institution in Wyoming, aimed to offer secure banking services for the crypto sector. Despite meeting state requirements and taking extra steps to demonstrate its commitment to safety, Custodia’s application for a Fed master account was met with delays and ultimately denied in an unprecedented 86-page report. In this episode, Caitlin and Michelle explain why they believe the Fed’s rejection was politically motivated, how this relates to Operation Choke Point 2.0, the appallingly small number of American banks owned by women, where they are in their lawsuit against the Fed, and what this case means for the future of crypto banking in the U.S. Show highlights: 00:00 Intro 01:52 What Custodia Bank is and how it got started in Wyoming 06:04 How Custodia got into a fight with the Fed to get its master account 09:58 How the dual banking system works in the U.S. and the differences between Custodia and traditional banks 18:15 Why Custodia filed a lawsuit against its own regulator 24:33 Why the Fed denied Custodia its applications and Caitlin’s response to the criticisms 29:57 The political coordination meant to “intimidate” Custodia, according to Caitlin 42:43 The amicus briefs that were filed in favor of Custodia 48:48 Caitlin’s reaction to the Fed’s enforcement action against Customers Bank  53:35 Why Caitlin says that it’s “abusive and corporatist” that the SEC is granting exceptions to big banks 56:03 Why so few banks are owned by women and whether this played a role in Custodia’s denial 59:25 The next steps in Custodia’s case and whether a stablecoin is viable for them 1:05:21 Whether the elections are going to impact the case Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Polkadot Token 2049 Mantle  Guests: Caitlin Long, Founder & CEO of Custodia Bank Previous appearances on Unchained: Why Caitlin Long and Meltem Demirors Are Worried About Crypto’s Future in the US Caitlin Long: Why Avanti Will Be a New Kind of Crypto Bank Michelle Kallen, Partner at Jenner & Block Links Timeline PerkinsCoie: Federal Reserve Issues Final Guidelines for Master Account Access CoinDesk: Crypto Bank Custodia Sues Federal Reserve Davis Polk: Crypto bank sues Federal Reserve over delay in master account application Fed’s 86-page report of its denial of Custodia’s membership  Custodia’s response to the Fed report Custodia’s amended filing Judge Scott Skavdahl’s order to dismiss Davis Polk: District courts refuse to order Federal Reserve to grant master accounts to Custodia Appeal Custodia’s appeal notice Custodia’s appeal filing Amicus briefs for the appeal Bitcoin Magazine: The Federal Reserve, Custodia Bank, And The Battle For Sovereignty Paul Clement on behalf of the Digital Chamber and Global Blockchain Business Council (GBBC) Don Verrilli for Blockchain Association State of Wyoming Americans for Prosperity Foundation Members of the United States Senate Banking Committee and House Financial Services Committee Former Sen. Patrick Toomey Customers Bank: CoinGeek: ‘Crypto’-friendly Customers Bank hit with Fed Reserve enforcement action Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices