In this excerpt from the CAFE Insider podcast, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance discuss the importance of evidence from Evan Corcoran, Donald Trump’s lawyer and a key witness, to DOJ’s classified documents case against the former president. Preet and Joyce also react to Senator Lindsey Graham’s argument that it is “absolutely ridiculous” to charge Trump under the Espionage Act. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce continue to discuss the Trump indictment, including Trump’s potential motives for taking the classified documents, his likely defenses, why the government didn’t conduct a search at Trump’s Bedminster, NJ, property, and the differences between Trump’s alleged crimes and the Hillary Clinton email scandal. Plus, will Aileen Cannon, the controversial Trump-appointed judge overseeing the Mar-a-Lago case, recuse herself? And will Trump’s lawyers get some help from a 13-year-old case involving the Presidential Records Act and Bill Clinton’s sock drawer? Stay informed. For analysis of the most important legal and political issues of our time, become a member of CAFE Insider for one month for $1.00: www.cafe.com/insider. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast, and other exclusive benefits. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE Studios and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Tamara Sepper – Executive Producer; Jake Kaplan – Editorial Producer; Nat Weiner – Audio Producer Check out other CAFE podcasts: Now & Then, Up Against The Mob Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices