In this sample from the CAFE Insider podcast, Preet and Anne break down the consequences of former President Trump refusing to testify at his Senate impeachment trial. They also explore impeachment defenses raised by Trump’s lawyers in their pre-trial brief. In the full episode, Preet and Anne further discuss the Senate impeachment trial, and they debate the merits of technology company Smartmatic’s defamation lawsuit against Fox News. To listen to the full episode and get access to all exclusive CAFE Insider content, including audio notes from Preet and Elie Honig, the full United Security and Cyber Space podcast archives, and exclusive bonus content from Stay Tuned, try out the membership free for two weeks: www.cafe.com/insider Sign up to receive the weekly CAFE Brief newsletter, featuring analysis by Elie Honig: www.cafe.com/brief This podcast is produced by CAFE Studios.  Tamara Sepper – Executive Producer; Adam Waller – Senior Editorial Producer; Matthew Billy – Audio Producer; Jake Kaplan – Editorial Producer REFERENCES & SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS:  “Trial Memorandum Of Donald J. Trump, 45th President Of The United States Of America,” Donald Trump, 2/8/21 “Trial Memorandum Of The United States House Of Representatives In The Impeachment Trial Of President Donald J. Trump,” House Impeachment Managers, 1/28/21 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices