In this excerpt from the CAFE Insider podcast, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance break down the ruling by a panel of D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals judges that held that presidential immunity does not shield former President Donald Trump from civil liability related to his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election. In the full episode, Preet and Joyce discuss:  – The ruling by a D.C. District Court judge that rejected Trump’s motion to dismiss the criminal charges in the election interference criminal case; and – The hearing in Fulton County where Trump’s lawyers argued that the criminal charges in Georgia should be dismissed and that Trump cannot stand on trial until 2029 if he becomes president again. Stay informed. For analysis of the most important legal and political issues of our time, become a member of CAFE Insider: www.cafe.com/insider. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast, and other exclusive content. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE Studios and Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices