KQED wasn't alone in struggling to cover former President Trump. These last four years changed how many journalists think about their responsibilities to the public. It's also forced more members of the news media to reckon with their own role in perpetuating long-existing, systemic problems. So we wanted to chat with KQED’s newsroom leaders about how they've changed over the past four years, and the role local news plays in a frail democracy. Guests: Vinnee Tong, KQED’s Director of News and Ethan Toven-Lindsey, KQED’s Executive Editor Read the transcript here. Sign up for our free live event on Monday Jan. 25 at 6pm. We’ll be talking to KQED reporters about the Bay Area stories to watch for in 2021. Find all of our "By the People" episodes here. Subscribe to our newsletter here.