What does it mean to turn a profit when your metric of success isn't necessarily money? This week, Gaby talks to Dr. Alex Ketchum, who studies the queer, feminist and lesbian history of restaurants, about how to run a lesbian and feminist coffee house, bar or bookstore, the long and fascinating history of women-run, queer, and feminist spaces in the US, and Gaby's own torn ideas of being community-minded while needing to sell their work. Then, Gaby speaks to the Fiscal Femme Ashley Feinstein Gerstley about how women learn business at traditional business schools, getting certified by WBENC as an official women-led/women-owned business, and the limitations of "financial adulting." This is a very informative and thought-provoking episode. Get into it! For a full transcript of this episode, visit: https://bit.ly/3xY8r6l Gaby Dunn Instagram: @GabyRoad BWM Instagram: @bwmpod BWM Facebook group: http://tinyurl.com/badwithmoneyfb The BWM Discord channel: https://discord.gg/dAdxj4JMER Find Gaby on Patreon: patreon.com/gabydunn Shop gabydunn.com/shop for merch! Bad with Money is produced, edited, sound engineered and mixed by Cumulus Podcast Network, The theme song was performed by Sam Barbara and written by Myq Kaplan, Zach Sherwin, and Jack Dolgen. Additional music by Joey Salvia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy