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- Publication Date |
- May 12, 2020
- Episode Duration |
- 00:36:36
Futurists—who sometimes prefer to be called scenario planners or foresight thinkers—specialize in helping the rest of us understand the big trends and forces that will shape the world of tomorrow. So here’s what I really wanted to ask one: Is a cataclysm like the coronavirus pandemic of 2020 the kind of event we should be able to see coming? If so, then why didn’t we do more to get ready? Why has the federal government’s response to the spread of covid-19 been so inept? And above all, what should we be doing now to get our political and economic institutions back in shape so that they can cope better with the next challenge?
This April I had the opportunity to speak about all things coronavirus with my favorite futurist, Jamais Cascio. Jamais is widely known for his work with the Institute for the Future in Palo Alto, and he has a bit of a reputation as the “dark futures” futurist—the one who isn’t afraid to dwell on how things could go wrong. It turned out he’d been thinking about many of the same questions, and that he’d been developing a new analytical framework for just such an occasion. It’s called BANI, and it offers new insights into our strange historical moment, when institutions left brittle by years of deliberate neglect now face shattering stresses.
In this episode, Jamais and and I tour the BANI concept and discuss how we could come out of pandemic with some new tools for confronting catastrophe.
Chapter Guide
00:00 Hub & Spoke Sonic ID
00:08Soonish Theme
00:22 Futurism in a Time of Pandemic
02:03 Introducing Jamais Cascio
04:12 Explaining VUCA
08:32 Meet BANI
10:43 How BANI Fits Our Moment. Part I: Brittleness in the Pandemic
13:48 Part II: Anxiety
14:17 Part III: Nonlinearity
15:10 Part IV: Incomprehensibility
16:01 Pandemics as Wild Cards
18:48 Planning for Pandemics
19:56 The War Against Expertise
21:44 Responding to Brittleness and Anxiety
23:50 Responding to Nonlinearity
26:03 Responding to Incomprehensibility
27:46 Paths Forward: Thinking More Like Futurists
30:30 Muddling Through
32:36 End Credits, Acknowledgements, and Hub & Spoke Promos
Futurists—who sometimes prefer to be called scenario planners or foresight thinkers—specialize in helping the rest of us understand the big trends and forces that will shape the world of tomorrow. So here’s what I really wanted to ask one: Is a cataclysm like the coronavirus pandemic of 2020 the kind of event we should be able to see coming? If so, then why didn’t we do more to get ready? Why has the federal government’s response to the spread of covid-19 been so inept? And above all, what should we be doing now to get our political and economic institutions back in shape so that they can cope better with the next challenge?
This April I had the opportunity to speak about all things coronavirus with my favorite futurist, Jamais Cascio. Jamais is widely known for his work with the Institute for the Future in Palo Alto, and he has a bit of a reputation as the “dark futures” futurist—the one who isn’t afraid to dwell on how things could go wrong. It turned out he’d been thinking about many of the same questions, and that he’d been developing a new analytical framework for just such an occasion. It’s called BANI, and it offers new insights into our strange historical moment, when institutions left brittle by years of deliberate neglect now face shattering stresses.
In this episode, Jamais and and I tour the BANI concept and discuss how we could come out of pandemic with some new tools for confronting catastrophe.
Chapter Guide
00:00 Hub & Spoke Sonic ID
00:08Soonish Theme
00:22 Futurism in a Time of Pandemic
02:03 Introducing Jamais Cascio
04:12 Explaining VUCA
08:32 Meet BANI
10:43 How BANI Fits Our Moment. Part I: Brittleness in the Pandemic
13:48 Part II: Anxiety
14:17 Part III: Nonlinearity
15:10 Part IV: Incomprehensibility
16:01 Pandemics as Wild Cards
18:48 Planning for Pandemics
19:56 The War Against Expertise
21:44 Responding to Brittleness and Anxiety
23:50 Responding to Nonlinearity
26:03 Responding to Incomprehensibility
27:46 Paths Forward: Thinking More Like Futurists
30:30 Muddling Through
32:36 End Credits, Acknowledgements, and Hub & Spoke Promos
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