In this episode of the Daily Detroit podcast, we’re talking about the raging inferno of controversy that has engulfed Founders Brewing Company in Detroit.

We quickly run down the latest developments following a racial discrimination lawsuit - and then we’re going to play a new game on the podcast we’re calling “Waaaaaaaiitttt a minute.”

Inspired by Lovett or Leave It’s “OK Stop,” where a news clip plays with commentary and comedy, we annotate an interview one of the founders of Founders gave to WJR, one of Detroit’s AM radio stations.

So why is the conversation cringeworthy? Well, there are a few reasons and you’ll have to listen to the show. Here's a quote from David Engbers, referring to Founders, that stands out:

Paul W. Smith: "600 employees, 22 years for Founders. How many other racial discrimination suits have you had against Founders in your 22 years."

Engbers: "Zero."

Smith: "Interesting. Zero."

Engbers: "I always thought we were the poster child for diversity and inclusion.”

When someone starts from that place of thinking, all of this controversy isn't that surprising. 

Of course, if you’d like to listen to the original Paul W. Smith piece in its entirety without our commentary, you can do so over here.

It's an interesting episode recapping a very interesting week in around this controversy.

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