In June of 2021, I had the opportunity to participate in a True Crime panel with Suzy Lyall's mother Mary. In October, the two of us got together on Zoom to discuss Suzy’s love for poetry and computer science, her goals, her relationships, Rich Condon, the impact of Suzy's disappearance, the word closure, Mary's activism, and so much more. Plus, we get into true crime as a genre, and how Mary helps other families of the missing.