This is just a preview of our latest Patreon exclusive bonus episode. You can hear the show in its entirety by becoming a supporter at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination Daniel Shaw, LCSW, is a psychoanalyst in private practice in New York City and in Nyack, New York; and Faculty and Supervisor at The National Institute for the Psychotherapies in New York. His papers have appeared in Psychoanalytic Inquiry, Contemporary Psychoanalysis, Psychoanalytic Perspectives, and Psychoanalytic Dialogues, and most recently, his book, Traumatic Narcissism: Relational Systems of Subjugation, was published by Routledge for the Relational Perspectives Series and nominated for the prestigious Gradiva Award. His book Traumatic Narcissism and Recovery: Leaving the Prison of Shame and Fear was published in 2021. In 2018, the International Cultic Studies Association awarded Dan the Margaret Thaler Singer Award for advancing the understanding of coercive persuasion and undue influence. Dan returns to the show to discuss with Rachel the ideas he explores in his new book, Traumatic Narcissism and Recovery: Leaving the Prison of Shame and Fear. Together, they reflect on the current landscape of recovery in their respective fields and compare notes on the ways patients and mental health professionals can be successful in cases of cult recovery. More info on Dan's work is available here: https://danielshawlcsw.com/ You can find his latest book here: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56844700-traumatic-narcissism-and-recovery You can hear Dan's previous appearances on the show here: https://podcasts.apple.com/am/podcast/traumatic-narcissism-in-politics-w-dan-shaw/id1373939526?i=1000507568685 https://podcasts.apple.com/am/podcast/collective-disassociation-w-dan-shaw/id1373939526?i=1000508465936