On this bonus episode, we hear a conversation recorded live at the Chicago Transformation Collab on June 26th, 2022. The Collab brought together a select community of leaders to get aligned in the current moment, have transformative conversations, and build stronger collaborative visions in the fight against fearmongering, carceral policies, and attempts to rollback modest reforms. This conversation, entitled "What We're Up Against," discusses the tension between the messages we want to share, and the messages people are ready to hear. In a conversation that centers the importance of this moment for narrative alignment in Chicago, panelists will discuss tactics that have succeeded or faltered in the past and what lessons we can glean from such outcomes. Participants include: Insha Rahman, Vice President of Advocacy and Partnerships, Vera Institute of Justice Sam Sinynagwe, Founder, Mapping Police Violence & Police Scorecard Sharone Mitchell, Public Defender, Cook County Lacy Wright, Executive Director, Hillman Grad Foundation SHOW NOTES Learn about the Chicago Transformation Summit: http://chicagotransformation.org/summit/