Greg Olear is joined by the ethnobotanist Mark J. Plotkin, president of the Amazon Conservation Team, author of “Tales of a Shaman’s Apprentice” and “The Amazon: What Everyone Needs to Know,” and the host of “The Plants of the Gods.” They discuss his career as an ethnobotanist studying the Amazon, the medicinal properties of plants and animals found there, “The Last of Us,” wine, beer, opium, psychedelics, and climate change. Plus: on top of spaghetti. Follow Mark: https://twitter.com/DocMarkPlotkin Listen to his podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/plants-of-the-gods-hallucinogens-healing/id1549464922 Visit his website: https://markplotkin.com/ Buy his books: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Mark+J.+Plotkin&i=stripbooks&crid=57486FKHKDLY&sprefix=mark+j.+plotkin%2Cstripbooks%2C71&ref=nb_sb_noss_1 Support the Amazon Conservation Team: https://www.amazonteam.org/ Subscribe to the PREVAIL newsletter: https://gregolear.substack.com/about Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices