This episode was originally part of the four-part series on BIG LOVE from 2021. We're revisiting it as a part of our 2023 kickoff series highlighting some of the best stories from our archives. AB Banks, defines love as "doing the right thing with a passion." That means taking care of themselves and their folks, and they see the potential of self-love to be communal and revolutionary. Day-to-day AB works with the People’s Programs in Oakland, supporting their unhoused neighbors through clinics and food donations. Outside of that, AB is deep in the practice of meditation. This is after setting out on a personal journey to learn the art of meditation, which included a trip abroad to study with renowned practitioners. In 2021 AB launched the Mad Chill series of short meditative videos with the aim of making this practice more accessible. In our conversation, AB shares what they've learned and some of the tools they've acquired on this journey to understanding the various shapes self-love can take.