Our Wednesday show begins with an interview with MLA Bruce Banman, who today crossed the floor from the BC United Party to the BC Conservatives. On the open line, we talk about the delayed opening of a new Surrey hospital, now pushed back another three years. We discuss what that means for patients. And in the second half of the show: a new report finds little improvement in addressing the exclusion of kids with complex care needs in schools. We hear your experiences, and discuss what's needed to provide a better learning environment.