Recorded 20 October 2019Another fun one, talking to Simon Fisher (SIFI) one of the Worlds great racing navigators.He gives us a run down on the world of the Navigator geek and then joins us for the rest of our conversation.We talk, Middle Sea Race, build up to the TJV, Ask what boat we are buying this week and then we introduce 'the Layman' - Evan Hocking, a bloke who loves sport, but has no idea about sailing. We get his view on the AC boats and he tells us who will win.Enjoy.#barkarate #sifisailing #thelayman #americascup #middlesearace #worldsailing #transatjacquevabre