Alicia Garza welcomes the award winning author, Aya de León, who most recently published the novel, A Spy In The Struggle (Kesington Books). Garza and de León chat about the art of spoken word, finding a writer’s routine, and some of the unique ways love is possible during a pandemic. Plus, Garza’s round up of all that’s good and awful from the past week.

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Alicia Garza on Twitter, Instagram & Facebook.

This pod is supported by the Black Futures Lab

Production by Phil Surkis

Theme music: "Lady Don't Tek No" by Latyrx

Alicia Garza founded the Black Futures Lab to make Black communities powerful in politics. She is the co-creator of #BlackLivesMatter and the Black Lives Matter Global Network, an international organizing project to end state violence and oppression against Black people. Garza serves as the Strategy & Partnerships Director for the National Domestic Workers Alliance. She is the co-founder of Supermajority, a new home for women’s activism. Alicia was recently named to TIME’s Annual TIME100 List of the 100 Most Influential People in the World, alongside her BLM co-founders Opal Tometi and Patrisse Cullors. She is the author of the critically acclaimed book, The Purpose of Power: How We Come Together When We Fall Apart (Penguin Random House),  and she warns you -- hashtags don’t start movements. People do.