What is the significance of the recent AUKUS deal for transatlantic relations? Thomas Wright and Benjamin Haddad join Andrea Kendall-Taylor and Jim Townsend to discuss the French reaction to the agreement, how it fits within broader trends of divergence between the U.S. and Europe, and how Europe might respond to a U.S. that is increasingly focused on the Indo-Pacific. Thomas Wright is the director of the Center on the United States and Europe and a senior fellow in the Project on International Order and Strategy at the Brookings Institution. At Brookings, Wright works on U.S. foreign policy, great power competition, the European Union, Brexit, and economic interdependence. He is the author of two books, including the recently published "Aftershocks: Pandemic Politics and the End of the Old International Order.” Benjamin Haddad is the senior director of the Europe Center at the Atlantic Council. He is an expert in European politics and transatlantic relations. His work has notably advocated for transatlantic unity in the face of Russian aggression, greater European responsibility, and investment on strategic matters. His recent book “Paradise Lost: Europe in the World of Trump” makes the case for greater European unity in a world of new challenges and threats.