In this episode we discuss the 0-0 draw with Liverpool in the first leg of our Carabao Cup semi-final. We chat about the strong team we faced versus the much depleted side we could send out, wax lyrical over the way we responded and defended having gone down to 10 men and while focusing on the collective spirit and quality we showed, there's some extra praise for Ben White who was superb on the night. There is the inevitable discussion of Granit Xhaka, the red card, and what the consequences are – but we talk about why the sending off happened from a footballing perspective. Then we answer listener questions about Dusan Vlahovic, the character of the team, Jack Wilshere as a short-term midfield option, Bernd Leno and lots more.

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