Evening Standard political reporter Rachael Burford joins the podcast as some petrol forecourts appear to be getting busier and others are closed altogether due to shortage of fuel. The government’s urging people to “shop normally” when filling up cars, but Transport Secretary Grant Shapps is also not ruling out bringing the army in to help with deliveries and training. Some are blaming Brexit, others Covid for a shortage in drivers to get fuel to petrol stations, and the boss of a leading supermarket’s calling for new rules to let more Europeans work in the country.

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