Today we bring you a different kind of conversation. Over the past several weeks, there has been a lot of conversation online about harassment and abuse of women at Phish shows and in the community more broadly. We invited three ladies on to talk about this, Felicia, Shelly and Jen. This episode was informed by the work of Brian Colligan, who wrote a piece about this topic. We borrowed the episode title from his piece. We hope this conversation sheds a bit of light on the issues and allows us to work together to make sure this kind of shit does not happen. We'll be back with our Fall Tour recap episode later this week. In the meantime, please subscribe and review us on iTunes and follow us on Twitter. Also like us on Facebook. And check out CashorTrade for face value tickets to shows across the country. If you are on Stitcher, give us a review. Intro/Outro Music: Woods, With Light and With Love Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.