Max Kenner is the founder and Executive Director of the Bard Prison Initiative, one of the leading programs providing college educations -- and college degrees -- to incarcerated Americans. He started the program while an undergraduate at Bard College and has overseen its growth over the past 16 years into a world-renowned program, copied at multiple colleges and featured in Bill Clinton’s book Giving. Vince Greco is one of the leading formerly incarcerated prison reform advocates in Maryland. He is member of the Maryland Alliance for Justice Reform and Out for Justice. He is a beneficiary of prison education and during his three decade incarceration was a leader on the inside in expanding college programs to Maryland prisons. Kenner and Greco joined All Rise! in March to discuss the first encounters with prison education, the philosophy behind their prison education work and their hopes for the future of prison education.