This week, Virginia chats with with Hilary Kinavey and Dana Sturtevant, cofounders of the Center for Body Trust, and authors of a new book out this week, Reclaiming Body Trust: A Path to Healing and Liberation.

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Hilary and Dana were on the Dear Sugars podcast

Virginia previously interviewed them for a Health Magazine piece

One of the frameworks Hilary and Dana use is Barbara Love’s liberatory consciousness, which is something they learned from Desiree Adaway and Ericka Hines.

Nonbinary psychologist and Body Trust provider Sand Chang contributed to their book.

Hilary is obsessed with the show on Apple TV called Home and her dog Arrow. 

Dana is obsessed with her hot tub, heated or not, and English muffins from Sparrow Bakery.

Virginia and her lower back are obsessed with this $29 heating pad from Target

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