As Jewish immigrants from the former U.S.S.R., Michael’s extended family endured a history of prosecution and genocide. But he finds that his parents lack empathy toward those seeking safety and freedom in the U.S. He's having a hard time understanding where they’re coming from. And an even harder time talking to them about it. An expert in negotiation and mediation has some advice for us all.

Our expert this week is Sara del Nido Budish, Assistant Director and Clinical Instructor at the Harvard Negotiation and Mediation Clinical Program at Harvard Law School.  She co-hosts a podcast about bridging political divides, which you can find here. If you loved this episode, be sure to check out Dad Voted for Trump and When Mamí Grieves Different Than You.

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